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so there's been some of that. but i think mostly people just spending time with them. >> i see superman in baby henry's halloween future. from the magic mom, rachel hulen. cute kids. >> thanks. let's continue on. top of the hour here, welcome back. i'm brooke baldwin. we are following that breaking story out of argentina. dozens of people are bed, hundreds are hurt after this train just plowed into this train platform. witnesses say it sounded like a bomb exploded there. this is morning rush hour. it happened around 8:30 this morning. we have a crew on the scene. we'll talk to them live coming up. but first, syria. two western journalists have become victims of the violence they were covering there on the ground in syria. just hours before her death,
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american-born journalist marie colvin told anderson cooper just last night, quote, the syrian army is shelling the city of cold, stavrving civilians, end quote. colvin and remi ochik were killed in the shelling there. he was just 28 years old. he was a veteran war correspondent with the "new york times" for more than two decades. i have cnn's ivan watson and jim clancy joining me. ivan, i want to begin with you in istanbul. i'll get to you, jim, i know you definitely knew marie very well. ivan, you met her a few times. you were also just recently in syria, days ago in syria. what did you see? tell me about the shelling. >> i was in a different part of the country that wasn't being pummelled the way that the city of homs is under such fierce bombardment. we were hearing periodic clashes
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and hearing heavy arms, and there were periodic bombardments of villages in the area. very intense, according to our sources in iblib province in the last few hours. certainly much more terrifying the scenes we've seen in homs where, according to marie colvin herself, in her last interview with anderson cooper last night, she said, every house in her neighborhood in homs had been damaged by artillery. and if you consider the amount of civilians living in that densely populated community, it's just terrifying what's been taking place there. >> yeah, she's covered many, many complicates around the wor -- conflicts around the world. she told anderson it's the worst
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she's ever seen. is time running out for the world powers to respond to this? >> well, this is an uprising that's been going on for 11 months. and by conservative estimates, more than 7,000 people have been killed. there are very well-documented human rights abuses by the syrian army doing everything from opening fire on funeral processions to shooting doctors that treated them and then torturing them. a recent account we just got from a human rights organization, we just got an e-mail. they claim that seven activists are trying to carry medical supplies into homs and were executed by gunfire, their arms tied up outside the city with their supplies scattered on the ground around them. the amount of stories that i heard during my five days in
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iblib province, i witnessed accounts of people executed, killed, tortured, detained. it's simply staggering. whether or not time is running out, that country has been bleeding for 11 months. it will continue to bleed. it's likely to get worse, and what may change is the opposition, which started out so peacefully, is trying to find any way possible to arm itself to defend against the slaughter. and the guns are starting to come in and it will look increasingly like a conflict rather than just also an attack on the civilian population. >> and the government, the assad regime, they certainly don't want members of the media showing what's happening there. yet people like marie colvin, like yourself with damon, you're able to slip into the country and tell and share these stories that are so important and get out. did you at all in your days there see marie colvin? do you know her, ivan? >> yeah, i've seen her in war zones and hot spots around the
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world. she is a very good foreign correspondent. the loss of marie colvin, the gifted french photographer as well, and a pulitzer prize winning "new york times" writer just a few days ago, this is a big blow to that shrinking tribe, foreign kornts, that work in the middle east. more importantly, it highlights how many syrians are getting killed in this conflict. and it's very important to point out that it is the syrian citizen journalists who are bearing the brunt of this conflict. just last night, a prominent activist romney al assad and was calling for medicine to be shipped in and for the evacuation of women and children from that city. he was killed by a similar artillery strike by shrapnel, the kind that killed marie and
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this young photographer remi from france and countless others in homs, and we've met the young activist. these are young, ideal stick, little cameras without a tv company to back them. they have been broadcast the images and atrocities around the world for 11 months, brooke. they are also gettings as's posed to. it interesting he mentioned sort of a tribe. a tribe of these waur journalists, and it shrinking. you were in libya when you were in a tent. going to interview muammar gadhafi with colvin. >> marie is a person that when i do a story today, when i go out
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in the field, like for her because she can catch me up with all the people who are in that so-called tribe. i want to get to the stories, but first i just want -- what would marie be saying right now? the whole point of this her whole life only has meaning. this is a lie that people are being killed because their thebz terrorist groups. this is being told in damascus, somehow this is t a legitimately fight. they're trying to slaughter and. . i think if her death has meaning, then that lie is exposed z.
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muammar gadhafi. he circled around and he said, everybody, i want to you look at her. she was always in the action and she had a broken nose. look what those israelis did to her. and you reassure her, oh, no, it's beautiful, is it sflael that is the tropical you over. i was waiting in. eight hours later, only marie colvin and i were still in the office waiting. she turned to me and she says, they'll say, clancy and marie were here because they liked them. we always did.
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but they had and ferociously funny i just penned. she lived it after the latest story she filed was about seeing this young child die before her. . and she didn't have to exaggerate it or bring those stories strt s she understood everything. she didn't stop asking questions. she was a joy to be around. she was such a joy to be around because she was such a top notch journalist. whenever i go on assignment, i expect to see her, and i can't believe i'll go to the next one and she won't be there. >> jim clancy, thank you.
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coming up here in the u.s., corporations pay one of the highest tax rates in the world, but they do enjoy a lot of loopholes, and today the president reveals his plan to close some of those. plus, months before the olympics, police are staging a fake terror attack. it includes at least one element of surprise. cnn is there in the midst of it all. that's next. i know. [ sighs ] i get that a lot. [ male announcer ] it's a snack like nothing else. kraft milkbite bars are made with real milk combined with tasty granola. kraft milkbite bars are made with real milk online dating services can get kind of expensive. so to save-money, i found a new way to get my profile out there. check me out. everybody says i've got a friendly disposition and they love my spinach dip. 5 foot ten. still doing a little exploring... on it. my sign is sagittarius, i'm into spanish cheese, my hairline is receding but i'm getting a weave. (falsetto chorus) getting a weave. who wants some ronald tonight!? geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more.
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...we inspected his brakes for free. free is good. free is very good. my money. my choice. my meineke. are home prices sinking to a new low. time to play reporter roulette. brie a brianna kheiler straight out to you at the white house on the
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tax cut plan. what is the plan? >> reporter: the plan, brooke, is to reduce the tax rate from 35% down to 28%. the idea here is to lower the rate by getting rid -- lowering the rate that many corporations pay by getting rid of the tax breaks that some corporations enjoy. this sort of speaks to president obama's idea about fairness, and you better believe this this is something the white house is talking about because this is a more fair process. right now there are 130 tax breaks on the books. of course, a lot of those tax breaks go to corporations or industries that have lobbied for a carve-out. a lot of corporations are paying less in taxes, some paying only 14%, ge last year paid nothing. so the idea is to get rid of some of that, flatten out what these corporations pay. manufacturers, though, brooke, would still get more of a tax break, but oil companies, for instance, would see theirs disappear under this plan. >> okay, so you said the white house says this is fair.
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the republicans say what? >> well, you know, the republicans actually, their response was sort of lukewarm. they didn't outright slam this plan. they proposed that he was lowering the rates, flattening things out. there are things they differ with the president on. they want the corporate tax rate to be even lower. they want to tackle individual tax reform as well, and i think the real question, brooke -- pardon me, it's very windy here at the white house -- >> it's very windy today. >> very windy today. it's a big hair day here at the white house. but there's a lot of details lacking in this, so i think one of the big questions is where is it going to go? you hear from the white house, you hear from republicans. they say publicly they want to move forward with this, but behind the scenes everyone knows this is a heavy lift. and if you were to vote on this in an election year, you probably would vote against it, brooke. >> i'm going to let you get out of that wind, i appreciate it. the government is targeting
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banks over your accounts and home prices are low, very low. alis alison kosik at the stock exchange. >> they can go over $30. if you buy a latte, it can cost you almost $40 if you're overdrawn on your checking account and don't realize it. the consumer protection bureau is stepping in to see if these banks are charging and calculating fees in a way that's misleading or confusing to customers. if that's the case, the agency wants to figure out ways to make it all much easier to understand. now, the american bankers association said you can avoid charges if you keep enough money in your account, but this new financial sheriff that's in town, brooke, they want to make sure everybody understands the rules first. brooke? >> what about, you know, home prices? i guess great if you're trying to buy, not great if you're trying to sell. lowest point in more than ten years. >> exactly. definitely a buyer's market.
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again, that price in january, the median home price, i'm talking about, it fell to $154,000. it's the lowest it's been in a decade. what the median price actually means is it's really at the price where half the homes are sold at a higher price and half are sold at a lower price. either way you cut it, it's not good news if you're the seller. as i said, if you're the buyer, you're a different story, and what's interesting is that these lower prices and lower mortgage rates, they actually help lift the pace of home sales. sales of previously owned homes went up in january, but a lot of people want to know, what's it going to take to see home prices move higher. it's going to take that glut of inventory, homes in foreclosure, to really clear the market. and until that happens, you're going to see it continue to drag on home prices. brooke? >> i was just in florida and you would see sign after sign after sign down there. >> it's depressing, isn't it?
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>> it is depressing, sort of. we are just months away from the olympics, and security crews, you know they're getting ready for potentially worst case scenario, which includes a mock terror attack. dan rivers has the story from london. dan? >> reporter: they're using this station here in london to stage an imaginary terrorist attack underground and then have seen how procedures have played out, checking whether communications are working properly between all the different services, between those who are organizing the olympics and the emergency services and those involved in counter-terrorism here. the planning on this kind of exercise is meticulous. they're pretending this is august 8 in the olympics, so all of the logistics that will be in place, along with what has been in place today, to make it as realistic as possible. the most senior policeman in britain told me this kind of thing is vital to reassure the public and the world that the games will be safe and secure. >> dan, thank you, from london.
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that's reporter roulette for you on this wednesday. hours from now, the four republican presidential candidates will be facing off one last time before the big tuesday arizona and michigan primaries, and looking forward to super tuesday. perhaps this is the last time we see all four of them on stage together, period. a lot of them have a lot riding on their performances. gloria boriger is standing live in arizona. she's next. [ male announcer ] this...is the network. a living, breathing intelligence that is helping business rethink how to do business. in here, inventory can be taught to learn. ♪ in here, machines have a voice... ♪ [ male announcer ] in here, medical history follows you...
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we have a big deal tonight. the last gop presidential debate before super tuesday, and not just that, it's the first such debate since the surge of rick
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santorum. take a look at this. the latest gallup tracking poll shows rick santorum with a ten-point lead over mitt romney. ten points. newt gingrich, ron paul are way back there. gore ya b or gloria borger is there. she e mailed me yesterday and said it was 70 degrees and sunny. thanks a lot. >> sorry. >> rick santorum grumbled after previous debates a. what's he saying now? be careful what you wish for? >> i was talking to him about the debate and being on the hot seat, and he doesn't seem at all perturbed by it. i think he kind of relishes the notion of being on the hot seat. i think we know what mitt romney is going to talk about, for example. he's going to continue attacking him as a big spender, as an
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insider. ron paul will call him part of the establishment. newt gingrich will try and demean his achievements while he was in congress. so he kind of knows what's coming at him. i think the big question, as far as i'm concerned, is the kind of theology of rick santorum, if you will, who is going to take him on on some of the social issues, the cultural war, and some of the things he's been saying about satan or the preside preside president. >> let's talk about the comment about satan. this is from a speech from 2008. rick santorum is suggesting that america is under attack by the devil, by satan. so here's part of that speech. >> if you were satan, who would you attack in this day and age? there is no one else to go after other than the united states, and that's been the case for now almost 200 years.
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>> so, gloria, there are plenty of people out there that wouldn't quibble with those remarks, but others, rush limbaugh, to name a few, they're saying essentially that this is a little too far out. >> reporter: yeah. i think rush limbaugh made the point that rick santorum is going to have to explain it. whether he has to explain it tonight, we'll see. you know, he has said that he believes in good and in evil. he doesn't shy away from those remarks, and i would have to say that i think what we're watching rick santorum do right now is really become or try to become the cultural conservative in this race to peel off as many votes as he can from newt gingrich and try -- and win primaries, and win primaries with conservative voters, with tea partiers, with evangelicals, for example. when you talk to people in the
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santorum campaign as i have prooifrt privately, not on the record but privately, what they will say to you is why are people questioning rick santorum's space, is it time to question mitt romney, perhaps? that is something we have not seen previously. >> we'll have to see what questions get fired away at these four candidates. i'll be tweeting away. the arizona republican presidential debate, 8:00 eastern tonight on cnn. still ahead, a dad is shot and killed outside a daycare in broad daylight. police call it a love triangle turned deadly. but there is a new twist here. find out what the widow at the center of it revealed on the stand. sunny hostin is on the case. she's next. [ laura ] maine is known for its lighthouses, rocky shore,
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announces it will srevisit affirmative action. a texas student who is white says she was denied admission to the university of texas based on the color of her skin. she has lost at the district court level and again on the circuit court of appeals, so what will the supreme court be looking at? >> well, certainly they will be looking at the university of texas at austin at missions policy, which at this point does allow race to be used as a factor in what they consider a holistic evaluation of an applicant's candidacy. they base their admissions policy on 2003 supreme court case, brooke, that dealt with the university of michigan. in that case, the supreme court 5-4 vote found that race could be considered as a factor because racial diversity was a compelling governmental interest. now, that opinion was written by justice sandra day oh conner oh.
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we know this is a way to reverse that position or narrow it. this is a very significant case the supreme court will be looking at. >> it's a significant case, and also this would have ramifications whichever way they rule, not just on universities, places of employment, et cetera. >> that's right. and i think that's why so many people are watching this particular case. but the supreme court has quite a docket up ahead. they're taking on some very, very pertinent issues. they're taking on affirmative action. they're also going to take on the 2010 obama administration's health care overhaul. they're also going to be looking at the arizona immigration law. so all of this in time for elections. si so a very, very busy supreme court we're going to be seeing.
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i want to talk about something you and i touched on yesterday. the case of remi neuman. neuman had an affair with the dead man's wife. she is denying that. what did she say, sunny? >> really, this is fascinating. she is the prosecution's theory as to why this even took place. they're saying hemi neuman wanted another man's wife so he killed her husband. she got on the witness stand and denied the affair, even though the prosecution showed her hundreds of phone calls between the two, hundreds of e-mail texts, really confronted her with receipts from travel together. but she maintained, brooke, that they did not have an affair at any time but that her boss had made passes at her, she didn't
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report the unwanted advances because she didn't want to lose her job. we know that neuman was her supervisor at ge. so a very, very odd first witness because she is saying, unlike the prosecution's theory, that there really was no affair. that dovetails with the theory that she is insane and really just denied this affair. >> she denied this affair despite the phone calls you talked about. her attorney showed her being cross-examined on television saying it was, quote, unquote, selacious. what happened with that motion? >> well, we saw her on the witness stand. and i will say this. it was somewhat selacious, but certainly very important to the prosecution in this case, because, again, the theory here is that hemi neuman wanted another man's wife and took him
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out because of it. and so we certainly did hear this testimony today coming from angie snyderman. >> sunny hostin on the case. we'll see where it goes. thank you so much. one lawmaker says they're radical and they promote homosexuality. who is he talking about? the girl scouts of america, green sashes and all. plus kobe bryant talking about his future in television. that's next. the vegetables are cut nice and thick... you were always good at cutting your vegetables. and it's got tender white-meat chicken... the way i always made it for you. oh, one more thing honey... those pj's you like, the ones with the feet, i bought you five new pairs. love you. did you see the hockey game last night? [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. ♪
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if it's interesting and happening right now, you're about to see it in rapid fire. let's go. a woman in suburban atlanta says a man who offered her help after her car broke down drove away
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with her children. these are images of her kidnapped children. this is one-year-old amari, three-year-old jayden. we are told they were found safe. the suspect was driving around in a green jeep cherokee, a black man about 6 feet tall. jerry pordamo drove a rented car to see a friend. that car was found abandoned in a walmart parking lot, and when he didn't show up, family and friends got worried. >> we have been in touch with the family. we're here to support the family in any way we can. again, the concern from the community is greatly appreciated. he's an outstanding and dedicated employee, and we want to stay optimistic. >> his wife also works there, he
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has two sons. a honda recall. the struts supporting the lift gate can leak, causing the gate to fall. two minor injuries have been reported. conan o'brien, his show has been extended to 2014. he released the statement, quote, i am excited to continue my run with cbs because they have been outstanding partners. this means i'll be taping episodes of conan far into the ron paul presidency. a lot of people, they look at the girl scouts, they see a harmless group that promotes friendship and community involvement and addictive cookies. but one indiana lawmaker looks at them and sees a menace to society.
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i'm talking about state representative bob more rris. he is the only member of the house that refuses to sign a note celebrating their 100th anniversary. instead he releases a statement talking about the menace he believes they propose. they are a radical organization. they are quickly becoming a tactical arm of planned parenthood, and, quote, they promote homosexual lifestyles. both the girl scouts and planned parenthood say, this is ridiculous. but morris isn't backing down. >> my problem is on a personal level with my family and our beliefs, and my wife and i pulled our daughters out of girl scouts as of yesterday. >> why? >> because of my beliefs, what i and my family stand for. >> we have no relationship with planned parenthood, doesn't exist, there is no former relationship, there's no money
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that changes hands. we have no relationship, and that's the bottom line. >> i also want to add this. morris' republicans are distancing themselves from his comments, including one house speaker who calls it a side show. we have invited morris to come on the program, we would love to talk to him about this, but so far we have received no response. we are following the breaking news out of buenos aires, argentina. hundreds were injured after a train crashed into a platform. we'll take you there next.
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a pact commuter train smashed into a platform in buenos aires, argentina. at least 49 people were killed and hundreds injured in this crash, which is sounded like a bomb going off. marcos joins us in buenos aires, and marcos, i know you're in a hospital not too far from train station 11 where all this happened. first, do the numbers still hold, 49 deaths, 600-plus injured? and also just tell me what happened. >> it's still 49, the number. one of those 49 people dead in this accident is underage. we don't know exactly now what age this minor had in the accident. i can tell you we have different
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people talking it. we just had a lady a few minutes ago crying because she has her son and grandson on the train. she said her son with her grandson of ten months were in the arms of her son, and she is calling several times and he is not answering the phone. this lady is going crazy trying to reach him. her son and grandson on the train that crashed at the terminal station in rush hour. it happened at 8:30 in the morning. i have to tell you that monday and tuesday were a holiday here in argentina, so it was more crowded than ever, this train. it's supposed to have like 1,000 passengers at the time of the crash. there were 600 injured, 50 of them are in critical condition.
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the emergency workers took four or five hours, in some cases, to rescue some of the injured from the structure of the train that was traveling, at the time of getting back to the station, at 12 miles per hour and it was supposed to be riding at 4 miles per hour. nobody knows if it was a human error or if something happened with the brakes of this train. we know that yesterday this train, that is, 50 or so went out of the -- through tests and it passed everything, including the brakes test. >> yeah, everybody is wondering if it was the brakes. we still don't know definitively. you mentioned there was surveillance video in that train station. do we know if that will be
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released? >> they have already released it. you can, probably in the next minute, go to the web site and there you can find the video, the moment of the impact of this train on this station. the address to get the video is www www.c5n.com. there you can find the video of the precise moment of the crash. you can see one of the cars is going over the first one. that's the place where most of the people are dead because of this accident in this fatality at that moment. >> marcos stupenango, thank you very much. just the sheer number, it's staggering what's being reported out of argentina. thank you so much. coming up next, we're going to take you live to arizona where jim aacosta is going to give us a behind the scenes look before our big republican debate
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tonight, including where exactly the candidates will be placed on stage. it's actually different this time around. that's next.
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we are hours away from our big cnn republican debate tonight, and this is the last debate before super tuesday. that's two weeks from now, march 6, and could very well be the last republican debate of the entire campaign. but we wanted to flip the script a little bit and just show you a close behind the scenes look, so jim acosta inside mesa, arizona. jim, take it away. do a little show and tell for me. >> well, brooke, i think one thing you're going to notice right off the bat, what's going
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to be different tonight versus the last several cnn debates, seven so far, is they're going to be seated sitting at this table. no podiums tonight. i'm going to take you up the stage here, walk up the steps and try not to trip here on live television. basically let me show you -- yeah, don't do that, right? let me show you where the candidates are sitting tonight. we're going to have ron paul seated on the end here next to rick santorum. rick santorum, as you know, is sort of the man in the middle right now. he's the one everybody is focusing their attention on right now. in a lot of the previous debates, he might be completely in the middle of the stage, dead center stage. not so tonight. he'll be seated next to mitt romney, so they'll sort of both share center stage. newt gingrich is here on the far end, and look who he's sitting next to, brooke. newt gingrich is sitting next to our debate moderator, john king. you'll remember there were some sparks that flew at that debate
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in south carolina, so it will be interesting to see newt gingrich sitting next to john king later tonight. some interesting trivia. i was told from our washington chief bureau that this table was used back in january 2008 at the reagan library is the last time this table was used. at that time it was mccain/you can huckabee, but also ron paul and mitt romney. those two candidates have sort of a home table advantage, if you will, brooke, but it's going to be very interesting to wash tonight. you heard earlier today romney unveil his tax plan, that will obviously be of interest tonight, but make no mistake, seeing them at this table i think will add some drama to the dizzy bait. >> let me jump in, i'm sure a lot of people realize, but the way in which each of these candidates is placed is based upon the polls, whoever is polling the highest. >> reporter: that's exactly right. >> but here's what i want to
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know. do they have water? do they have gummi bears? >> do they have wears? >> does only one of them drink green m & ms. >> reporter: we understand water will be provided, i'm not sure about other beverages, and i was checking under the table to make sure that no one put the gum under the table. we don't think that occurred, but i'll be checking later on, just in case. >> what's the reasons behind the seating, literally why they're seated? >> reporter: the reason why they're seated, well, sam is standing backstage. i'm going to tell me why are they seated tonight? just to mix it up. sam is saying to mix it up, make it more intimate, more fun. so there you go. maybe i should have had sam come and do this. >> are there partitions underneath, so no one can kick one another, right? >> reporter: there are some partitions here, but we don't
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think any of that will be going on tonight. this will be a gentlemanly debate. >> i'm expecting fireworks. >> reporter: i think there will be some fireworks. we've seen rick santorum and mitt romney go at each other. i think you'll see, and don't forget newt gingrich. he thrives on these debates. he feeds off the reaction he gets from the audiences. he could be sort of the sleeper story tonight. perhaps newt gingrich breaking out of the mac and has a huge debate. as we've seen in all of these die bates, they have changed the race time and again. they've been game changers every at every turn, at every stage of this campaign, that could happen once again tonight. the stakes could not be higher. if you were mitt romney looking forward to the michigan prime yaes next tuesday, if he loses, this race for the gop nomination will be unlike anything we have seen in a very long time when it comes to the republican nomination, so it will be very
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fun to watch, and a lot of things could change tonight at this table. >> i'll be watching safely at my sofa and tweeting away. thank you both. let's head outside, wolf blitzer obviously the stakes are very, very high, and interesting. they'll be seated there tonight. what do you make of that? >> you know, it will be good for them, a bit of practice in case one of them becomes the republican presidential nominee in the debates there are three scheduled debates with president obama, whoever the republican nominee will be, and usually in those presidential debates, they're seated, sometimes they stand, so a lot of them have practice standing, sitting, good to, good to stand. we'll see if they're good sitting as they are standing, if you will. so a bit mixing up is good for all of us to watch. i think it will be a little more intimate, shall we say, because they're all closer in.
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in the last debate i did four years ago with hillary clinton and barack obama were seated at the kodak theatre in los angeles, where the academy awards were, i was seated as well. i stood in some of the other debates, and there are certainly advantages to being seated. so i see advantages and disadvantages. >> a huge debate, last one before march 6th, super tuesday, so i know you'll be talking a lot about that, talking to john king. wolf blitzer thank you, see you in "the situation room" in five minutes. meantime, 10% of americans suffer from addiction, and i'm talking drugs, alcohol, and a disturbing number of them are younger than 25. sanjay gupta is back in the studio with me with brain model in hand. he's going to tell me why here in many cases parents are to blame. you're a dad. >> i am.
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this is a statistic we heard yesterday, 1 in 10 americans is an addict. the most vulnerable, young people. i'm talking under the age of 25. sanjay gupta once again here in the studio. let's begin we're talking 25 and younger, what is it about their brain that perhaps makes you more susceptible. >> it's going. young people are so resilient, but the basic premise is the brain is still developing. you're still developing, so two things, your risk/reward center, we talked about this yesterday, brooke, that's affected, you have a feel of euphoria. >> the dope amean. >> th the filter so to speak, is
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no if the lull developed in people 25 or younger, so they're more likely -- if they feel the euphoria, they think they want more of that. >> i know we have a lot of parents watching. it's interesting to use the phrase passive pusher, what is a passive pusher. >> there's so much parents unwittingly provides some of these substances. what you may not have heard is 64% of these kids are getting these meds from their friends, medicine cap nets, relatives or their marnts. that's the bad news. the good news is if parents talk to their kids, they're 42% less likely to use these medications. i'm not preaches here, because i'm a dad as well, but this is the low-hanging fruit in this
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war, if you will. >> that's assuming you're aware of what your child is involved with. >> have the conversation and you greatly reduce the -- what's your advice? >> two big things. this is a brain disease as we've talked about. don't think of it solely as a lal of willpower. it is a brain dizzy. if you call it a brain disease, you'll respond differently. see a doctor, a professional. if the person is unwilling to do that, maybe you get the have i from the health care person yourself. also the idea that you have to hit rock bottom before you can get help. >> i certainly hope not. >> you hear that, you have to let the addict hit rock bottom. there's so many ways to make an intervention that can be satisfies, actually change the trajectory of that young person's life. recognize it, interview and trea

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